Wednesday 8/18 – Meetings, Meetings, and More Meetings
August 19, 2010
I woke on Wednesday to a more typical day in Beijing. It had been blue skies for my first few days, but starting the day before, pollution had settled in. Before the Olympics, the government spent $17 billion to clean up the air, but it’s horrible again – it’s so bad that you can taste it, it’s sort of metallic.
Over breakfast at the (astounding) hotel buffet I read the China Daily (which I did every day). Two stories that morning showed the size and prowess of the Chinese economy and way of doing business:
- Foxconn, the company that manufactures the iPhone and has 900,000 workers plans to hire 300,000 more. A company with over 1,000,000 employees – amazing
- An alliance of 16 large state-owned companies was formed to accelerate the development of electric vehicles, and will spend almost $15 billion by 2012
I had an easier schedule, just two meetings and dinner, but they were important meetings.
First, I met with Jipeng Wang, Founder and CEO of Cy-Fans. Cyworld is a site for celebrity fans that has a “SNS” (social networking service), clubs and an information service. Jipeng was super-cool in an Emporio Armani shirt, designer glasses, and smoking in his office (53% of Chinese men smoke). He was a blogger starting in ‘02 and started this after selling Blog China. This was my first, and only, interview that was 100% through the translator. The substance sums to, Cy-Fans looks just like a U.S.-based Internet company, except that the Founder/CEO is more of a king. The experience of conversing through a (non-simultaneous) translator, though, was really different. First, of course, it doubles the length of the conversation. That pace gives you much more time to think, which ends up mostly frustrating because I built up a backlog of questions, but is also good in that it focuses the conversation on more important points. It is also odd because there’s no natural flow to who’s asking and who’s answering.
Beijing is huge – it has a population of 22 million and covers 6,500 square miles. Getting from one meeting to the next, mostly by taxi, was extraordinarily time consuming. Traffic can be terrible, and I often spent an hour or more getting from one place to the next. It is also surprising to me how often everyone gets lost. Not only are GPSs rare, the use of street addresses is too. A typical taxi ride included at least one discussion on a mobile phone between the driver and the person I was going to meet. I carried around a card from my hotel that had the name and address in Chinese as well as a little map, which was essential. Not even every address in Chinese would have fixed the overall problem though. Many days I didn’t need my interpreters for meetings, but I sure did need them to help me get to the meetings. Taxis are extraordinarily cheap. You can get very far on 20 yuan, or about $3. A really really long ride might cost $10.
I took a long ride to get to Baidu to meet with the #2 guy, Haoyu Shen. Haoyu is another Chinese who spent years in the U.S. (in this case getting an MBA at Iowa, then, later, at American Express.) He manages everything related to revenue at Baidu, is essentially Founder Robin’s right hand.
Baidu has over 70% of the search market in China, with Google at 24% and falling. Baidu has grown to look more and more Google-like over time, with better transparency for advertisers and clearer identification of sponsored listings. But, of course, Baidu is very highly censored. 15% of searches on Baidu have ads against them. Query length in China is 1/2 of the U.S.
The most interesting part of the conversation at Baidu was about managing for innovation in China. Haoyu gave me an incredible example of the Chinese culture of copying (drop your cultural biases – it just isn’t seen as wrong here): a very successful social start-up, www.kaixin001.com had that odd url because they couldn’t afford to buy www.kaixin.com (kaixin means happiness). Once it was clear how fast they were growing, an investor group bought www.kaixin.com and launched an exact copy of www.kaixin001.com on that domain. Even the New York Times got confused (see the correction at the bottom of the article).
For dinner we went to meet Carter Tseng, who brought along his good friend Joe Lee. With friends from Xerox Park, Carter Tseng co-founded Microtek International Inc., a scanner technology company that went public in 1988. He is s member of the Committee of 100 and is primarily a philanthropist now. Joe Lee was National Technology Officer of Microsoft China, and spent 18 years at Bell Labs. Carter was an absolutely charming host, aided by his Taiwanese friend who runs the Japanese restaurant where we ate tons of delicious food in a traditional tatami room. His story is compelling and he’s active in a number of exciting projects today.
I was particularly grateful to be able to ask Joe some basic technical questions – for example, I learned that Linux is the typical web OS. We also covered:
- Pirating has some huge consequences I hadn’t thought through – because there are no automated updates, network security is terrible in China and is holding back the shift to cloud computing.
- The mix of technology and services in China is and will be different, because there is such a large population that will continue to be uncomfortable online and because labor is so cheap.
- Joe confirmed that individual employees tend not to be very creative either. Chinese engineers are super-smart but re-solve simple problems in ways that are inferior to standard solutions and can’t make creative break-throughs to solve big problems.
I got back to my hotel just in time for a ClickEquations Board call. Long days!














