Thursday 8/19 – Meetings and Dinner
August 20, 2010
I was sleeping mostly normally, but starting to get run down. My first meeting was with my the first venture capitalist on my schedule, Sean Peng, Managing Director of the Beijing office of WI Harper. The fund was one of the earliest in China, starting in 2000. They invest in the Chinese version of “Early Stage”, which is more like early growth in the U.S. Their approach is typical of any VC in the U.S. – they look for a big market, a differentiated defensible product, and a great team. Sean echoed the same themes I’d been hearing everywhere – labor is never an issue, anything can be copied easily, but management is difficult to find. Another difference is how fast how many companies can grow. He gave me an example of a company that makes materials for wind farms that went from $2.8m in revenue in ‘08 to $30m in ‘09 and had $48m in the first half of ‘10.
WI Harper helps portfolio companies with business networking (which is more important here than in the U.S.) and with relations with the government (which is paramount here). They can help access policy-based advantages (getting free space etc), shorten approval processes (which can be a huge problem), and predict where the money will be spent.
We also had an interesting conversation about the government. He pointed out that the government is turning towards internal consumption. It is working to create an upward spiral of prosperity, pushing per capital GDP up so that the Chinese can afford to buy Chinese products, closing the consumption loop (the high tariffs on imported goods help drive domestic consumption too, of course). There is also a focus on development of Western China, supported by, for example, lower minimum wages there than in the East that encourage companies to locate there. The system works extraordinarily well. As much as there are extraordinarily objectionable aspects of authoritarianism (censorship, 1-child policy, etc…), it is highly effective economically. The Chinese can move with alacrity, and, as Nicholas Kristof points out, the Chinese protested in 1989 more for improved living conditions than for political freedom – and they’ve gotten that.
“…Many of those rickshaw drivers and bus drivers and others in 1989 were demanding not precisely a parliamentary democracy, but a better life — and they got it. The Communist Party has done an extraordinarily good job of managing China’s economy and of elevating economically the same people it oppresses politically.”
There are about 60 million Communist Party members in China, from a population of 1.3 billion. The competition to rise within the party is fierce – officials who are promoted are generally very very good (corruption notwithstanding – and let’s recall our own issues in that vein and not get too high and mighty about it). One of the most striking things about China is how well their system works.
My favorite example of this is high-speed rail development in China, which has developed from nothing to the world’s largest network in the last 15 years. As you can see on the system map below, a key element in going fast is going straight, which isn’t a problem in an authoritarian state that values the collective over the individual.
In contrast, here’s what we end up with in the U.S. after spending half a billion dollars on a new train junction in 2003. You take Exit 15-X off of I-95, pass right by the station, then take that wacky giant hairpin to get back to the station. Not that it really mattered if you could get to the station by cars – there was no parking until 2009, when a private company opened a lot. New Jersey Transit acknowledges that not building parking was a mistake and they’re considering adding a lot. Duh.
Back to the day’s events… From that heady conversation, we went to IBM to visit with Dong Jinwei, Demand Program Manager in the Marketing & Communication Group of IBM China. Among his other responsibilities, he manages paid search, which he’s been doing since 2005, early in China. He has a very interesting background, including an attempt at a start-up and was very informative about how things actually work. Most is very similar to the rest of the world. The IBM office felt very familiar as well; lots of young people in nice clothes buzzed around carrying laptops, speaking mostly English.
From IBM we went to meet with Michael Xu at GridSum, a technology-based digital agency. GridSum does iCrossing’s search work in China. They’ve built their own cross between an analytics platform and a search management tool. We did demos of each other’s products and saw that there is the opportunity for a relationship, we’ll follow up in the next few months on that. The most surpirsing data point from this meeting was that click fraud is still in the 30-40% range in China!
Finally, we went to the (State-owned) China Construction Bank to meet with Mark Ma, the Chief Investment Officer. Mark is responsible for multiple investment funds totaling about 6b RMB. Mark reiterated the common theme: “The U.S. is about innovation, China is about application.” He, like most investors I spoke with, is short management talent – there’s endless opportunity and capital. His model is to identify a market in China that needs product, find a product in the U.S. or Europe, have a team of (50 or 500) Chinese engineers replicate and improve on the product, then go to market and go public. Mark is Mr. busy with two cell phones ringing constantly. Nonetheless, he made time to take us to a very enjoyable dinner. I have no idea why, since I rarely drink, but I asked for white wine. That caused quite a stir, as no one was clear if they had any (despite a decently long wine list). It was served from a creamer-sized decanter, about 1/2″ in each glass – I made the mistake when it was first poured of thinking that I was supposed to test it, so I swirled it around and downed it. I’m not sure what they thought of that. Mark went to Tsinghua University (the top University in China) and invited me to speak there when I’m back in November, quite an honor.

















